The DTG founders also often participate in the MrTopStep IMPro live trading room. The connection to DTG is that Tradechat.me hosts our chat room under the same interface as the IMPro room. They are entirely independent entities. IMPro is a room of professional stock and futures day-traders who share market information, trading knowledge and trades through most of the US trading session (although the room is open 24/7). How is IMPro different than the DTG chat-room? The DTG room is NOT a “live” call the action/call trades room. It’s simply an adjunct to the member forums which provides for discussion of current market context and NOT for those seeking to follow “live” trades. The IMPro trade-room on the other hand is a very active room driven by several professional traders. IMPro includes live streaming charts, news squawk, live floor audio, live audio from professional traders, and includes the MrTopStep Market Imbalance Meter (MiM). The MiM is a proprietary market sentiment indicator created by aggregating open buy and sell orders from several market making desks on the floor of the NYSE. It has a high correlation to how the US index markets are going to move into the cash close. The MiM indicator is also available separately from IMPro.
If it were not for you guys making available the DTG and model and patiently keep turning me in the right direction I had a snowball’s hope in hell to pass a combine. Prior to subscribing, I did not have an edge in which I believed enough to stick to, and also no-one to bounce thoughts off of.
I passed a combine for the first time. The combine starts with a a $150k sim account and is a pass when $9k profits are achieved. There were 18 trading days with 4 losing days. The two big losing days I lost my mind and traded like an idiot. Sticking to the DTG levels ALWAYS comes out on top, given a large enough sample size. That is where my future in trading lies, for sure.
About DTG: I’ve been trading for many years, pretty consistently losing, always searching for the information I was missing that would transform me into a consistently profitable trader and let me enjoy the fruits of profitable trading. In that quest, I spent way too much money, time and effort chasing down rabbit holes offered by vendors, books and courses as the key to the door – the promised land of consistently profitability.. I now see that these vendors were offering – at best – a painted on door on a brick wall – no amount of pounding would ever open the door. Then I listened to the free DTG/MD seminar – and liked what I heard – they seemed like straight talkers – but I had been fooled before – many times, in fact. Nonetheless, I took a $99 chance and subscribed for one month. Turns out, DTG offers insight and information which points to the real door – 180 degrees from the painted on door that the “vendors” offered. This at least allows for the possibility, not promise, but possibility of profitable trading. Now, if this were me reading, I would say – aren’t they just vendors, too? Here’s is my take – these guys are traders making their money from trading and, for whatever reason (I’ll let them speak to their motivations ( maybe they feel guilty about all the money they have taken from me and others like me over the years LOL) ) are offering information that can’t be bought. In trading, more than anything else I can think of, those that can do, and those that can’t – TEACH. And vendors constantly have to offer courses, upsells, additional services, software, etc to continue to make money. Since I’ve been a member, have not seen any attempt to get additional fees, etc.
Their forum has the feel of an elite dojo, where a small group are totally committed to the same outcome and willing and able to help each other as well. And, corny as it sounds, I feel lucky to be a member.
If you do decide to go ahead, try it for one month, but make sure you are willing to put in the work of reading the past message boards, because that is where the gold is buried (in open sight) – there is no course or tutorial – just real time commentary by guys that are walking the path we all – I assume – want to walk. You will learn what real traders know – and, dare I say, even more importantly, stop the never ending search for some phantom bit of information that truly does not exist. This information, if absorbed and practiced, can take away the stress and agony over every trade and instead lean into the support provided the laws of probability. Crude and imperfect analogy – be the house instead of the sucker – and reserve your trading to times when you are likely – likely, not guaranteed – to win and trust the math. (force LOL) That is what Vegas does, that is what insurance companies do , and, as I recently discovered – at the DNA level, that is what successful es day traders do. When this informs your trading, it truly changes your perspective, shifting your focus onto what you can control, and possibility, your results.
Feel it necessary to say – that I’m not affiliated with DTG group in any way, that other than feeling like I know them via the forum, I don’t – and haven’t received compensation for this.
I am learning a ton about how professional traders look at the market. They tell it like it is….I like to call it the ‘no BS channel….no BS all the time’. Their focus is ES and Treasuries, for both scalping and longer intraday swing trades. I am confident that staying the course WILL turn my trading around, and I will be profitable for the first time!
I’ve been a member since 03/12. I can attest that they live up to what they say in the site introduction and accompanying info. I am semi-retired, I have been self employed most of my working life, saved up a retirement account from which I need to derive an income (its a business). For a portion of my account I wish to day trade. I started investigating day trading and was lucky to not get caught up in too much ‘pie in the sky’ stuff. If it was easy and just a matter of buying this or that indicator then there would be a whole lot more rich day traders around instead of a 95% failure rate. I wanted to get to the core of the issue, what is important, what is not, how do you put it together. I believe I have found many of those answers here. Everybody is different, everybody needs to find their own style. I think here you can find some solid building blocks.
Another point is that I live in rural Canada, just can’t go down to the local coffee shop or watering hole and discuss the intricacies of the ES vs the 10yr note. Being a part of a small community of serious traders through the member forum has significantly reduced my learning curve. The daily live chat room is great for info exchange and observing how other people see the action. Somebody, somewhere said [i]’Its not a sprint, its a marathon'[/i]. Things change, the learning doesn’t stop. If you are serious and don’t mind the work, maybe this is the place for you.
I have never believed in the “holy grail” in trading of never be wrong since I work in the finance industry and I have seen plenty of “forecasters” being wrong many many times. DTG confirmed that by showing me it’s the simple and macro market concepts along with risk managment is what makes money in trading. It’s probably hard for people believe that the professionals don’t have some special method but but I now believe that’s what it is through my own and other members’ trading results. DTG tells it like it is and shows that anyone with enough time and effort can achieve the same results as the professionals.
What I like about DTG is they are not teaching – they facilitate learning. DTG’s approach to the market is very simple; it is a systematic approach without “a system.” What I mean by this is that they are very specific about each component of trading: analysis, trade & risk management; but, when you put it all together it is you yourself learning and making decisions.
What I learned from DTG is to make a very simple approach to trading methods, hard work, consistency in decision-making process.
DTG is providing the greatest trading service for the trading community in the world. They are honest about sharing their methods and are open.
Thank you very much,
I’m not doing anything special. All the things that I’ve stated are the things that I’ve learned here at DTG through NJ, RG, and the other members on the board. I got hammered and run over when I first started here but just kept implementing the concepts that I kept picking up. It all starts coming together after you hang here awhile and learn on a daily basis. I was a technical trader who left all that crap behind. I probably speak for everyone here when I say that it’s DTG’s concepts, patience, and focused responses that make the difference to each and all of us. I don’t think that there’s a day that goes by that I don’t learn something from either RG or NJ.”
Having been a member of the CBOT for ten years as well as an off the floor trader I approach any trading service or community with a great degree of hesitation. When I stumbled upon DTG my first thought was that was going to be another service that sold “magic” numbers based on some esoteric calculations, or a revival of some 1980’s trading strategy. I signed up for the Market Delta seminars and found them very useful, so I decided to sign up for the service. It only took a few days before I realized what DTG was really about. Sure they provide support and resistance levels, but in my opinion the real value comes from the discussions on money management. It is here that the real “secret” to successful trading is found. All questions are answered in a straightforward manner, and trade examples as well as different money management strategies are discussed in great detail.
I have personally found the discussion board an invaluable component of the DTG service. It is here that I can communicate with other traders as well as the DTG partners. It is great to see new traders get started on the right foot, and the more experienced ones take their trading to a new level. Selfishly, by posting my trades it forces me to be more accountable for my trading decisions.
I would recommend DTG to any SP day trader interested in working hard to improve their performance. If you have the desire to succeed, DTG will show you the way.